No seriously... what happens now?
Poor Babybear is cutting about three teeth at the moment so she's just not that ravenous for food... Celery she remains obsessed by, which renders me more convinced than ever of its reputed numbing properties. And pasta fusilli with pesto and peas, she would happily eat that every day. Likewise oatcakes, cheese, broccoli, ham (loves it now, but only Nigella's in Coke, for god's sake), moon biscuits, raisins... och most things I suppose.
I don't know what I thought would happen when she turned one, I mean I knew that no-one would wave a magic wand and she would drop milk feeds but she still seems to be drinking a good four bottles every day and I'm disinclined to do any 'cutting back' as that just seems wrong somehow and against the spirit of Baby led Weaning? And I think they are still supposed to be drinking milk anyway... must find out how much.
And what milk? We're still giving her formula, mostly for my own convenience I must admit as we're not brilliant at remembering to buy milk in this house and also those Tommee Tippee powder holders are SO handy when we're out, but I suppose I'll have to start her on cow's milk soon...
I don't know why I'm moaning, really, she ate half of my Ginger Chicken and a truckload of edamame at our celebratory 'Well, That's the Christmas Holidays over for Another Year and Aren't the Sales Shite' dinner at Wagamama in town today, it's just that I'm wondering where we go from here... I've liked not giving a stuff about what she ate so long as she is happy. Now what do I think? Do I have to start giving her vitamin drops? Do I have to start worrying that she is getting a balanced diet? Do I have to Start Caring?!
Oh My God - I'm going to have to start being a Proper Mum, aren't I?
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Re: Until They're One It's Just For Fun... Part 2
I'm battling with this too. Minky is one next week and wasn't really eating very much. Over Christmas my Mum insisted that I drop the afternoon breastfeed. Partly so Minks would eat more; partly because I am physically drained.
I think my Mum was right. Minky is eating much more and has started eating cheese (needs the calcium? Am I giving her too much credit?). She'll have three good meals and two snacks every day. She will practically climb into her highchair to tell me she is hungry rather than undressing me. So, she seems to have worked out that hunger = food. Rather than a breastfeed at 3 ish, she gets a beaker of cows milk from which she probably drinks a grand total of 2oz/60ml. I went straight to cows milk rather than fanny around trying to find a formula that she liked (she's was nearly one, it's fine!). According to "britain's leading babycare expert" (privately think defamatory comment here, so Aitch's blog doesn't get shut down), they need 350-600ml a day once they are one. My boobs don't have a gauge on them, so I'll trust she is getting at least that. I didn't really want to refuse a breastfeed. I wanted her to drop it in her own time. But, she wasn't taking in the calories from food and I didn't know how to get her to do this. Cutting back on milk has worked for us. The day after I dropped the feed she spent an hour eating lunch. Not messing around either; solidly chomping. Re: vitamin drops. I'm inclined to think they are unnecessary, they're eating plenty of fruit and veg - right? Re: Re: Until They're One It's Just For Fun... Part 2
Do you know what, Minky? I think I've been a bit wrong-headed about this and forgotten to approach it as someone who wants to have a child who Eats Food. When you FF, they tell you when weaning that because formula is such an imperfect product you have to make water available at every meal. So I've been continuing to do that...
I've just been speaking to Morv (whose internet has been off for a month, by the way, hence her absence) and she's been giving Skye cow's milk in a beaker with great success, so I'm going to start doing that at meal times instead. I'll report back. Re: Re: Re: Until They're One It's Just For Fun... Part 2
UPDATE.
Tried Babybear on some milk in a Tommee Tippee holey cup tonight and she pulled any number of faces but being the brave little BLW-er that she is, she kept trying it and eventually decided she quite liked it I think. Didn't drink much, probably a quarter of a cup, but it's a start. Back from the dead
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Morv
on Sat 06 Jan 2007 20:01 GMT | Profile | Permanent Link
Hello again, I can confirm that Aitch is right my tinternet has been dead since before christmas but we are up and running again, I found that paying my bill appeared to help. Although alarminy when I sign on it says connected 512KBps - great that would be one 10th of what it was before......
Anyway , Boomer turned one at the start of the year and has now switched to cows milk , this has been pretty smooth but i will post a prober blog about it in a minute.... Re: Back from the dead
welcome back, morv. and an update on my update is that today Babybear has mostly been letting her cow's milk drop straight back out of her mouth. which was nice.
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Nice!
Minks has only had water in a beaker until now. Suddenly there's dribbley, gone-off milk on her clothes. She appears uncared for. Re: Re: Re: Re: Until They're One It's Just For Fun... Part 2
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squirrel
on Mon 08 Jan 2007 11:44 GMT | Profile | Permanent Link
Hi Aitch. My monkey is fast approaching her first birthday so I have been researching, yes I can be a bit of a boffin, the subject of food/milk after the age of one. I have come across two schools of thought. The first is from the celebrity puree promoter with huge hair who says 14 fl oz (400 ml) milk a day is needed at this age. Completely opposing this in an excellent book called 'What Should I Feed My BAby' the nutritionist Suzannah Olivier argues that we rely too heavily on dairy in the West. Many Eastern cultures use no or little dairy and have much lower levels of osteoporosis than ours. The calcium in cow's milk is not particularly bio available apparently and green leafy veg, nuts, seeds, sardines etc are much more useful at supplying calcium. She says governments recommend giving milk as sadly many parents do not know/care about their child's diet and milk is undoubtedly nutrient rich. However giving your child a varied non milk based diet provides a broader range of nutrients, and the aim of weaning is to get the little ones eating food. They are after all, not baby cows! She also blames dairy for many childhood ailments and says cows milk protein is difficult for all babies to digest (except in yoghurt, which she recommends you give once a day). She also said if you do want to give milk it is best given as formula/breast milk until the age of 2.
So end of lecture! I haven't decided which path to take yet, or knowing me, whether to find some middle road. It seems a bit revolutionary not to give milk to a child, but then again, BLW required a bit of a leap of faith and I haven't regretted it for a second. Who ever would have thought raising a child would mean having to make quite so many decisions?! Re: Until They're One It's Just For Fun... Part 2
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Thell
on Tue 09 Jan 2007 12:27 GMT | Profile | Permanent Link
Hi chaps!
I've just been looking at the WHO website, and all their recommendations are that breast milk is important up to age 2, which I'm sure we can also safely apply to formula milk over cows' milk bearing in mind that it is much more easily digested. Although again, it's horses for courses to some extent, so it depends on what you feel necessary, mummies! Here's a link to their slightly scary guidelines on feeding, in which it is repeated that they consider 'complementary feeding' (complementary to milk) to be from 6 - 24months...hurrah!! http://www.who.int/child-adolescent-health/New_Publications/NUTRITION/guiding_principles.pdf I've not been around for a while as Angelcake has had cold after cold after sickness after cold... She's definitely on the mend now though. She suddenly lost all appetite when she first got ill, so I must admit I just stopped bothering with meal times. It probably wasn't the most sensible approach, in retrospect, but she was just throwing food on the floor and getting agitated in her highchair. So now that she's beginning to be interested again, I feel like I'm starting from scratch. She has a very limited diet at the mo, partially because of lack of inspiration on my part - tomato, a bit of avocado, mango, wholemeal toast and organix rice cakes until they come out of her ears! She will also let me spoon-feed her oatibix for breakfast and pureed/mashed fruit mixed with yoghurt or fromage frais. She's had a munch on meat too. She's refusing her beloved potato in all forms. Considering the WHO's warnings about malnutrition, I think I'd better start making more of an effort,... Re: Re: Until They're One It's Just For Fun... Part 2
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Anonymous
on Wed 10 Jan 2007 02:29 GMT | Permanent Link
very interested in Squirrel's research - well done and thank you. I went through this with my older daughter, Flump, as she didn't seemed interested in milk, and I read my AK book with concern! (Actually, now I think of it, this influenced me in stopping breastfeeding at 9 months, as I was sure she wasn't getting the right ammount from me!! This time around, I haven't worried at all about how much Pipsqueak gets, though judging by the magnificent girth of her thighs she is getting enough) I also wondered why milk should be given such a huge place in children's diets, and wondered if there was some deal between dairy farmers and the government!!
I now think we should probably worry less, and trust our little ones to let us know what they need and like. As you say, if they are eating a varied diet, we can probably forget about how many mls of milk they are drinking, and just let them get on with it. Flump is now 2 1/2, a fabby adventurous eater, goes through phases of loving milk and then not being bothered (as with most foods, to be honest), and I aim to be a whole lot more relaxed with little Pipsqueak. Re: Re: Re: Until They're One It's Just For Fun... Part 2
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BAT
on Wed 10 Jan 2007 02:32 GMT | Profile | Permanent Link
sorry, didn't mean that to be anonymous. Seem to be having lots of issues with owning my identity on this site. BAT
AK website
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BAT
on Wed 10 Jan 2007 02:41 GMT | Profile | Permanent Link
it has just reminded me, talking of AK, and reference to big hair. Has anyone been to ber website? The "about me" section? Poor AK, I do think she means well, but maybe should let her hair down. Probably too much hairspray holding it up.
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Bunny
on Wed 10 Jan 2007 10:08 GMT | Profile | Permanent Link
Bless her ;-) She does seem like a nice lady, and all my pureeing friends are devoted to her. I do use her 9 months up and toddler recipes.
Hilarious section of the website though; her son is clearly a big hair fan too! And did you see that she used to be a professional harpist?!! Being an inveterate Googler, I looked for earlier pics of her and found this painting - now THAT'S big hair! Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Until They're One It's Just For Fun... Part 2
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Mij
on Sun 01 Jul 2007 20:34 BST | Profile | Permanent Link
Oh, thank you mummies, once again. Glad I took a look back at this now IzzyMouse has turned 1 and still couldn't exactly be described as wolfing it down, with the exception of rissotto, chickpea curry and most recently squash and feta pie - must send Aitch recipes as those three are pretty much the only things she asks for more of. But I was getting concerned about calcium intake, mainly as she doesn't seem to like cheese and we don't use cows milk. And her nails seem a little flakey. But maybe that's just because they're baby nails. Dunno. At least she likes yoghurt and is breastfed. Must read WHO guidelines again for reassurance. Any other tips for over 1-ers for getting all the right stuff in a veggie diet?
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Jeni
on Sun 01 Jul 2007 23:58 BST | Profile | Permanent Link
the dietitian i went to see about josh's milk intolerance wasnt worried about his calcium intake as he is still breastfed on demand and i plan on lettiung him self wean when hes ready. she did give me a list of calcium rich foods tho, but im not sure where ive put it. its in a safe place im sure....
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