I've been meaning to post these for ages, I found them a while ago and must've forgotten to put them up. Sometimes I forget how big a deal the whole choking thing seems when you're starting off because it's all such a long time ago for us. Make sure you read the FAQs if you are
concerned, because there's a really interesting post where everyone
says how often their babies choked and the answer, you will be
delighted to hear, is 'hardly ever, if at all'.
So look, here are some links from the NHS Breastfeeding People and NHS Healthy Start that say finger food is fine from 6 months. (Look at pages 4 and 5 in the first document for information specific to self-feeding, and lord knows pay particular attention to the monumentally stupid face that the woman on the cover photo is pulling as she tries to encourage Junior to eat. That poor child is mortified, so you've been saved from that if nothing else.)
Anyway, both of those documents , in conjuction with the WHO's guideline that solids should be a complement to milk up to a year are good news for BLWers, I think. And bad news for those well-known pushers of baby rice... our much-loved mothers-in-law.
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The NHS agrees with us that finger food is A-Okay from 6 months.
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My health visitor said the age guideline for finger foods was 6-9 months and yet everyone is too scared of AK to call it baby led weaning!
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Eleanor
on Wed 08 Aug 2007 10:00 BST | Profile | Permanent Link
waits for AK to storm gates of Department of Health with placard about how finger foods at 6 months are dangerous because babies could choke on lychee stones...
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Vixtable
on Wed 08 Aug 2007 11:34 BST | Profile | Permanent Link
This is great, I was actually given the NHS one at a weaning class I attended a few months ago and I hadnt even bothered to read it thinking it was going to puree, baby rice, puree as the class was pretty much this! I might give it to MIL and FIL to read since they seem to think I am trying to poison their only grandchild with houmous! ("Finger foods? You know what he would love, some apple puree"-FIL). Interestingly, one of the only people not to be fazed by this is great- granny of 86 years who offered babyboy a slice of melon yesterday.. methinks some things come full circle!
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Tinkerbelle's Mummy
on Wed 08 Aug 2007 16:37 BST | Profile | Permanent Link
I'm probably posting this in the wrong place, so sorry in advance.
I was just looking for studies into weaning cause I've got a bit fed up of the "only one study into BLW" comments over the weekend and begining of this week when no one can quote a single puree study! Grrrr. Anyway, I found this from The Association of Breastfeeding Mothers They do talk about purees in there, but it's mainly about self feeding. BTW, I heard a term I can't remember where or when now, today or yesterday, I think, that I liked. Baby Led Feeding. I think it sums it up better and emcompasses our American cousins :) Re: Re: The NHS agrees with us that finger food is A-Okay from 6 months.
ooh, good link. i think this is a good spot for it.
personally, if i was naming BLW i'd call it Baby Self-Feeding as i think the 'led' is troublesome... Re: Re: Re: The NHS agrees with us that finger food is A-Okay from 6 months.
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Tommy
on Wed 08 Aug 2007 22:33 BST | Profile | Permanent Link
Have been telling my MW about this today (I'm not pregnant again - she is a friend!) and she said that BLW was discussed in her breastfeeding study day - MWs and HVs locally should all know about it. She sounded quite positive about it so hope that when I see my HV, she'll be able to be supportive
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Tinkerbelle's Mummy
on Thu 09 Aug 2007 09:53 BST | Profile | Permanent Link
What area is that in?
I find it funny that kellymom has stated that BLW is new, has one "expert" (they did the quotes) and is being co-opted by a group of lay people with the bit between their teeth, with little concern paid to the known health risks, when it is becoming so accepted in the UK amongst the health service. Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The NHS agrees with us that finger food is A-Okay from 6 months.
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Eleanor
on Thu 09 Aug 2007 10:03 BST | Profile | Permanent Link
Where's that on Kellymom? They link to the Rapley guidelines on the "How do we get started with solids" page.
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Tinkerbelle's Mummy
on Thu 09 Aug 2007 10:24 BST | Profile | Permanent Link
It was a post in 0-6 and was locked because I defended it and myself after they quoted me as saying "spoon mommies" are crazy.
I can understand them wanting to be cautious if they haven't had time to fully look into it, but they should be telling people the difference between choking and gagging, rather than saying gagging is dangerous and (despite what they say) that (up there^) is coming down on BLW and as it has been proven that so many mothers do it in secret out of fear, they are doing what they accused me of saying I said spoon mommies are crazy. I think that the majority of openly BLW parents will be confident enough to ignore it, knowing better. Sorry, for the rant, they really p'd me off with this. Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The NHS agrees with us that finger food is A-Okay from 6 months.
where's the kellymom link, tink, i'd love to have a look.
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Tinkerbelle's Mummy
on Thu 09 Aug 2007 13:43 BST | Profile | Permanent Link
Here
They don't say my name in that post, but there was one before it that it was obviously referencing to. Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The NHS agrees with us that finger food is A-Okay from 6 months.
ah well that's the thing about american sites, they don't leave big gaps for new paras so i largely find them impossible to read.
i can see kellymom's point, in that there's no research on BLW that is majorly conclusive, but the bit about those of us with the 'bit between our teeth' having no regard for (er, our children's) safety is a bit insulting, i suppose, lol. It was i who blooming well heimliched a child choking on a grape in the park a while back... had his mother more regard for her child's safety she'd have been the one doing the infant resus course, not me. as it was, she wasn't as spectacularly grateful as she might have been, lol, and ushered her purple, gasping infant away as fast as she could... Choking, as i've said Many Times Before, is something that all parents should be cautious about, as puree-feeding won't help anyone very much if your kid grabs his pal's grapes in the swingpark. an infant resus course, and being confident in telling the difference between a gag and a choke, will. Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The NHS agrees with us that finger food is A-Okay from 6 months.
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Eleanor
on Thu 09 Aug 2007 16:31 BST | Profile | Permanent Link
Wow, I'd never looked at the Kellymom forums before. They're quite, er, intense. I'm not surprised you're a bit miffed by some of the usage of quotation marks...
I can kind of see how BLW could seem hazardous from the outside, though. When we started, I think every single person who heard about it asked "Won't she choke?" I can see how until you've seen it in action, it could be hard to believe that a 6-month-old can eat for herself without choking (rather than gagging) and/or being malnourished. Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The NHS agrees with us that finger food is A-Okay from 6 months.
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Eleanor
on Thu 09 Aug 2007 16:34 BST | Profile | Permanent Link
PS, and What Aitch Said about the choking... unless you're going to continue exclusively spoonfeeding until they leave home, without so much as a crust of bread to break the moulinexed monotony.
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Vanilla
on Thu 09 Aug 2007 16:32 BST | Profile | Permanent Link
So true as those sad stories in the press recently prove....10 year old chokes and dies on a piece of meat from a Sunday roast, 6 year old chokes and dies on a sausage at school.....
I have first aid cert myself but not infant so I'm going to get on a course as soon as I can. Good on you Aitch for stepping in at the park, so many people wouldn't and I must say that if I were the mother I would have been grovelling thanks at your feet. Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The NHS agrees with us that finger food is A-Okay from 6 months.
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Vanilla
on Thu 09 Aug 2007 16:50 BST | Profile | Permanent Link
PS: Just read kellymom thread..........blimey.........you're not wrong Eleanor, that's very intense. I use forums for advice, help, and bouncing ideas around. The use of "", CAPITALS, bold & italics was all a bit much for me.
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Tinkerbelle's Mummy
on Thu 09 Aug 2007 17:11 BST | Profile | Permanent Link
Well I feel a little better now. My favourite thing was that she pm'd me, knowing as a new member I can't reply! Not that that would stop me ;)
How can she say what she did about us (the whole lay-person thing) and then say "but we're not knocking BLW"? Most forums I use it's generally accepted that members have their own ideas and don't reflect the owners. I mentioned BLW, not even advocating it, and there's a big deal over it. Re: Re: The NHS agrees with us that finger food is A-Okay from 6 months.
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Quokka
on Sun 02 Sep 2007 13:54 BST | Profile | Permanent Link
This came through on my Baby Centre update today:
http://www.babycentre.co.uk/baby/startingsolids/babyledweaning/ Re: Re: Re: The NHS agrees with us that finger food is A-Okay from 6 months.
yeah... 'Helen Pegg, BabyCentre's health visitor advises parents to include at least some mashed foods when they starting the weaning process. This allows you to give your baby a more varied diet.'
they've rather missed the point i fear. every so often i go on and post up a comment and every so often they come along and delete it... i notice that they've left my most recent one up, very decent of them. Re: Re: Re: Re: The NHS agrees with us that finger food is A-Okay from 6 months.
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babyboos
on Mon 03 Sep 2007 01:50 BST | Permanent Link
wierdly it was Baby Centre who first made me aware of BLW and you guys for which I will be eternally grateful :-)
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have you been to the forum yet, babyboos? i will be Ruthlessly Promoting it from now on so you may as well give in and sign up now...
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