whoops, sorry, didn't see you there Rose. Apologies, I've been spending more time on the forum, the button's on the left there, you should join in. The thing about choking in my experience is that it's very much in the eye of the beholder, and if the beholder is, er, older... then they see it every time the little fella sooks on a bit of food. YOU, on the other hand, will know if he's choking, because you'll feel it. it's not the same as a gag, it's a bit frightening tbh. (i should say i think dd only choked once or twice, both times a slap on the back did the trick. both times it was sodding apple, more fool me.) you see a wee look of panic in their eyes, they're struggling, and you bonk them on the back. it usually clears it fine. if not, you turn them upside down and shake, according to my infant resus class. have you done one? i felt much more encouraged after mine.