Sorry Aitch, just found this, can you erase my reply that's in the wrong place? Grovel, grovel... I just wanted to say to Lin that this was the way I was brought up (right through until I left home, so toddler years and teen years) and I have never craved junk food - I never buy it and only have it in the house if it has been bought for me (i.e. boxes of chocolate). Because of this I eat a varied diet and have never dieted or calorie counted, I have been a size 10 for most of my adult life thanks to this healthy approach. I enjoy food - I live in France so they kick you out if you don't! and have (I believe) a very healthy attitude to it. I hope to pass this on to Munchkin too.